ested For Defrauding £200,000 From Uncle
people seem to think that it is the drug
dealer standing on the corner which is
flooding the
streets however one does have to be
Business Heavy to be a drug dealer
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bigles weight has a very small
population it's a market Town however
drugs are
everywhere the majority of the clients
that I deal with are involved in high
level drug Supply
20 30 years ago drugs were for the Rich
and Famous but now it's like Amazon
Prime it could be your neighbor it could
be your Postman it could be the teacher
of your child in
school it's crucial that we find the
truth your back
got to question everything believe
nobody someone want to game a chess
trying to get to slip up this is your
opportunity to talk to
me help you hi social work I'm reporting
abuse
case Okay so this guy is in a nursing
home okay his KN has been taking all his
money out of his
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account this guy has no other family
members the me is the only person here
has I don't know how but last time he
went to the banks he taken everything he
had 22 left
I sent you across his bank statement
okay he's got two Lloyd's accounts this
is like his everyday usage account when
he's is's holding the wall in
that detective Sergeant Anne Ward and
investigating officer Dave Breck from
bedfordshire police are investigating
the case of a man in a care home whose
money has mysteriously disappeared from
his bank account if you scroll from the
top down Wards on the 26th of February
he gets a payment of 365,000
I am quite sure this is that's the lady
we're looking
for
right she's not known to the police at
she at all no trace of her whatsoever
she's teaching assistant good character
all that sort this was clearly too much
of a good opportunity to take advantage
of her uncle yeah it's sad really his
entire time has been spent working
abroad or in the UK yeah had masses of
savings now it's all gone everything's
gone Alan morning mate how you doing
thank
you one if I PCH on the end of your bed
yeah you can
cool Dave Breck visits the victim a
71-year-old man called Alan
Hayden right reason for my visit is I
want to get a little bit more
information about your relationship with
Sasha um I don't have one Dave oh no not
now but when you first came back to the
UK you were staying with Sasha wasn't at
that point I mean obviously you had seen
her for a long while MH but she pleased
to have you there I think she was yeah
she come and pick me up from the airport
and all that right okay we used to go
out every Saturday shopping and go the
pub did you already have your Lloyd's
bank account or did you open that my
Lloyd's bank account I I've had it for
nearly 40 years yeah who set up the
online banking for
you I don't got online banking yeah you
have you have no idea you had online
banking no no okay and how many accounts
with Lloyds do you think you've got just
one you don't realize you've got a
second account with Lloyd's pardon you
got another account with Lloyd's who has
you have we not aware of that this gets
worse okay
there obviously going to be expenditure
for you within the bank statements but I
can't really see a lot of
stuff just I can't see a lot of the
purchases relating to you beauty regimes
Car Hire hotel stays
holidays you got an Amazon account do
you use PayPal no have you ever been to
go out doors what's that okay that's
enough said no um you haven't got any
games consoles to play computer games no
right okay she had a fine time with my
money isin't she I can't believe the
spending really can't in one month I
think last year she spent £
135,000 135,000 in one month I couldn't
spend 135,000 in one month not on bits
and
pieces I'll give it a go if I had the
money but I don't have the money
man I want a new chair
yeah I just want s of ad
it was there any conversations between
you and her about what's going to happen
to all your money is she going to get
anything and no she was yeah I was going
to leave it to her not now done a will
now you've done done a will now okay
that's good he
sickening I don't know what Turner
there's normally a trigger for why
someone does
something what we tend to do is try and
build a picture of the individual that
we're starting to investigate by looking
at intelligence what we can find out
about their social
life 50 Quid 50
Quid
70 looking at bank accounts she spends
money like it's going out of fashion if
there's frequent
activity that doesn't really ring true
with someone's lifestyle for me that a
red flag quite quickly well I got 11 car
parts and 31
babysitting cash transfers were 80
quid so
um
Andy how much would 80 quid get you for
cocaine 60 to 80 quid for a grand all
right okay that's a weekend is it night
out all right okay
and Drug purchases do you
think drugs tend to be quite well
involved in a lot of crime due to
addiction the money behind the drugs and
the
supply where money is drugs can
be I've sent you all the briefing note
itself so basically it's a fraud based
investigation the names are important to
remember when we're searching for Alan
Hayden anything with that name on after
trolling through the bank statements
police have enough evidence to arrest
Sasha gam for fraud it's a two-bed
Victorian Cottage she's got children I
think she's got one child still at home
so I'll lead out going Convoy you got
time for a quick coffee if you want one
thank you thanks
Dave sat at home last night thinking
about this job and we're making all
these plans for today and and this
person sat at home not knowing that her
life's just about to change completely
today yeah I know for us this is another
job but for hers it's going to be life
changing hello
Sasha Sasha can I come in I'm from B
police you're all
right hello sorry for coming my
colleagues just got to come in as
well um yeah so just a second M's dog
cat you want to sit down um so Sasha I'm
arresting you on suspicion of fraud by
false representation and money
laundering so the grounds for your
arrest are that you access the bank
accounts of Alan Hayden I had a and and
took in excess of £350,000 without his
permission okay okay yeah so you're
going to be coming into custody with us
now okay um do you want to put some
clothes on before we go um s you very
shocked I understand it yeah what it
means is that we've been investigating
money disappearing from Allan's account
right and that's the basis but I had a
bank card for his bank account we'll
need to see that as well I don't I don't
no longer have it for me to progress the
investigation I need to interview you
properly about it of course okay um but
my colleague will help you out now if
you want to get yourself sorted out get
dressed and that sort of
thing
okay you
right it's bit of a shock isn't it I
know have you ever been in police cust
before no
okay my porridge
crack this is all just so bizarre yeah I
know it's a come a bit out of the blue
hasn't it and yeah
yeah he's my uncle yeah my godfather
yeah I've started some
now soor I'm not a cat person you're not
too small like I said I need turn one
when I walked
in you walk in here and you see
everything it's about family isn't it
yeah very much so it just seems very
strange that you do something like that
to a family member
Fin's got to go to the P station quickly
I need to ask some questions about Uncle
alab Don't Panic I'll be back later all
right okay I need anything
else bu
off can I have a we quickly yes I go you
can sorry it's just it's here okay yeah
movement in the
bathroom okay she a little bit too long
for a wee we you're right
Sasha all right no that's all right all
right ready to go now yeah I going get
my purse just just in case you know I'm
allowed to get a drink or
something I'll just leave that here yeah
there's food and drinking stuff there so
um that's all free
yeah all right come on Sasha we need to
go now sorted okay
yeah how can you have a half eaten
packet of Percy
pigs that would never happen in my
house oh my God that's
gross so used [\h__\h] tampon in there in
the pocket I've just pulled it out from
a packet of
Quavers
oh um
found okay
um she found some uh wide powder
upstairs so um possibly she needs to be
further
arrested
s
morning bed forer police arrest a woman
from bigles Wade on suspicion of fraud
have you ever been arrested before
no they suspect she has stolen her
uncle's life
savings and your occupation uh teaching
aist any offense uh for by force
representation okay you understand why
you've been
arrested no So based on what the
officers have told me yeah you
understand that okay how do you feel at
the moment
sick is that because you've been
arrested or just in general no no
just just bring up this Intel sheet
Sasha
golden acting strangely for some time
believe that she has been buying large
amounts of items from Amazon due to all
the packaging being stacked in the front
garden uh Gordon's often trying to cover
her face with face masks or bowing her
head down from sight she uses tampons up
her nose possibly linking to drug use
okay so what you found in her jacket
pocket tampons certainly puts that in
perspective now this also ties in with
the report the school gave us saying
that she's continually wearing a face
mask when asked not to wear one because
it's putting the children off cuz and
also the constant trips to the toilet
and performance yeah that explains a
lot consumed any alcohol or drugs in the
last 24 hours I I lost so
any
drugs no are you dependent on alcohol or
drugs
no changing
changing what we got there cocaine oh is
Coke yeah oh beautiful pretty rough
pretty rough stuff there rough stuff
yeah so they could be cutting a little
bit of AIT in with a Coke cuz the Coke's
so crap yeah yeah not getting the money
with F that can tell you stuff I used to
use yeah cool brilliant
stuff time further arresting you for
possession of class a controlled drugs
where was it during a search of your
house we found a small packet of white
powder in a purse in your bedroom it's
not mine it's not yours okay all right
take care
hello with the added charge for
possession of class A drugs DS Anne Ward
meets with Ds Tim pler who is
investigating drug dealing in the bigles
Wade
area we've got a fraud investigation on
lady in bigles
her bank account there's just regular
payments £80 here £60 there I've just
taken Snippets out so we've got what she
calls these transfers is car parts and
this goes on and then it goes on to a
Mrs
B and then we've got someone Ty and they
call it babysitting as you can see it's
just Relentless I've never known um a
truck be paid by a bank transfers before
no and I have them because it's making
it exceptionally easy to purchase she
doesn't even have to go out moving with
times I mean You' got that like there
what he say his name was Ty yeah bit
close to the name we got we got a blow
called
Tyrone right so he's he's the main man
over there if this links to our SE to
that account well that proves that's
criminal
money
yeah yeah get on the floor now on the
floor do not
move we don't often get many overlaps
with investigations but if you look at
the the amount of crime that's committed
across the country and how much that is
connected to drugs there will be a huge
connection going jumping Force we've
been dealing with the drug dealing
problems in big for a number of months
[\h__\h] you listen I'm intelligent probably
smarter than you got more qualifications
than you
T Baker's calling the shots we've not
seen him with drugs on him because he's
higher up the level the jackpots de
Welsh Hamilton they are rightand men if
you like you know as as what I do drugs
are hot around the air at the minute
aren't
they they are quite different from the
game as we're getting L Snapchat game
yeah and I don't think they realize the
seriousness of what they're getting
themselves involved with these have my
phone so I can call my parents and tell
them
[\h__\h] we got so much on Baker at the
moment
phones we have got so many phones says
Baker text out number fam do your job
after months of repeated stop and
searches on Tyrone Baker's gang the s
pl's team have seized a number of their
mobile phones so on that phone we've got
loads of conversations about him drug
dealing um set up a line there's
interesting when you look at it and he
says go bigles way there's no one around
there there's no there's no competition
around there see because it goes back so
far you can almost see him setting up
his business you can see how he's done
it
so Welsh well if you want a part of a
conspiracy for Welsh he sends his little
um New Year's Day message to his mates
first of Jan trust me boys us three will
do some big things this
year all the setbacks we've had some
worse than others we've learned from
each other and I can see a massive
Improvement already this is our time to
make it our one shot you don't really
get in a conspiracy often do you with
actually having a group conversation
yeah all talking about Criminal so
that's tied up quite nicely really for
three if I ever get caught for breaking
the law ain't trying to go jail so I'm
calling up Gatsby got one case but I got
that dropped fagging up white all night
like Ashley just got nicked to i betal s
and I see that Sergeant work too happy
my I've known tyone for over a
year look trying to turn around and
check he appreciated the car driving and
we had a discussion as to what car he
was into and what
cars he decided he wanted myself to
represent him that's what led to tyone
Baker becoming my
client my client Mr Baker does feel
targeted by the boson team because he
has been stopped many of times by them
he has no previous convictions in
relation to
drugs he studies and he's most
respectful the type of clients I deal
with some would call the elites of
society you find yourself a drug dealer
who knows more about business than a
business
teacher arm investigation officer 3227
Dave no and I work for the serious fraud
Investigation Unit based at Police
Headquarters at Kempston and I've got
one other officer with me um acting
sergeant and Ward I'm also on the series
The fraud team are about to interview
Sasha golden who they suspect might be a
customer of the bigles way drugs gang
you're happy for now to talk to us
during this interview not having having
spoken to a solicitor yeah okay I think
I guess so I don't that is an ongoing
right so um before I ask you any
question questions I know my colleague
came in earlier and arrested you for
possession or suspicion of Class A drug
up for a friend all right um we'll talk
to you about that in due course first
thing I want to cover is a fraud by
false representation what does that mean
fraud is where you take something no I
don't what fraud is the
misrepresentation thing is where you
represent yourself as being someone else
so if if I take your debit card for your
bank and I go to a cash machine and put
it in a cash machine and take out the
money I'm pretending to be you but it's
not true okay that's what I have to try
and clear up with you regarding Alan
obviously we're talking about Alan
Hayden why would you say your
relationship with each other was like
amazing yeah I was his next to Kin that
that's the way we saw it you know it was
me okay um January 18 he's living in
Burlington Hall who sorted out the
finances for him to stay there I had
access to because I was his next of Kim
and he doesn't have technology
or know how to use technology so I set
up the standing order for to pay the b
in Hall monthly thing from his bank so
you got access to the bank you had full
permission of Alan to use that
absolutely he was just like well you
know yeah sash it's Sasha's money anyway
inheritance you know it would like a a
comment to say
basically Sasha can because she can use
I can use I can yeah I can do she can
have I can I can use it
right how much money did he have in his
account oh was it the house s with
300,000 I think andly that
£365,000 is to pay for his residency at
Burlington hall now over the amount of
years he was
there I've worked out roughly his fees
totals around 153 Grand right that
leaves us
$212,000 if I'm right he's saying that I
spent 212 ,000 well what I'm trying to
account for is where that money's gone
well if I spent 200 Grand I I I would be
shocked cuz that's a lot of
shopping right hopefully there you can
see your HSBC account
yeah love holidays
£78 where have you been on holiday me
and my friend went to Rome so I did it
on the card and she paid half okay but
he didn't get half that back no no no
and he didn't get your off so he just
paid for you both basically all these
transactions here deams abzon these are
transactions that you've
completed using his card yeah 19th of
March there's 5,600 from Allan's account
credited to yours yeah for my credit
card yeah okay so was that agreed that
he would pay for that well he never said
he
wouldn't okay yeah November 19 7,000
000 in a month how much do you earn a
month um about
1,300 a month can you see yeah of course
yes of course I can basically you're
getting this much but you're spending
this much yeah yeah how how does that
work that cuz you're using Alan's money
yeah basically yeah yeah I was living
the life of Riley with blinkers on you
didn't care because you just did it I
did care but I just didn't think no you
did think it's not a slip of the mouse
it's a premeditated decision to take it
yeah the drugs found in your bum bag on
your bed for a friend do you know what
it was yeah I know it was cocaine right
okay do you know what it was mixed with
no okay it was mixed with amphetamine as
well which generally is a sign of
someone has having very poor quality
cocaine and adding another drug to it to
make it have a better effect so what you
bought in fact is really really rubbish
oh how much did you pay for it um
80 quid 80 quid yeah right okay BL
that's that's very
sad you can't trust drug dealers no okay
yeah um so it was literally a case of
recreational use are you prepared to say
who your friend is no okay and where you
got it from
no
okay when you go into an interview you
do actually hope that someone's going to
give you the truth
you can watch someone giving you an
account and admit yes I took the money
but are they fully being trueful with
you for why and have they come to terms
with it
themselves bedfordshire police are
investigating a bigles way drugs gang
a victim whose home was taken over by
the gang is brought in for
interview there's a phrase we use called
cooker it's where people move in and
take over someone's house dealing drugs
within that house it does happen a lot
and and it is difficult to prosecute
because there'll be cooker in people
that are vulnerable but to be coerced um
forced into drug dealing forced
persuaded threatened can be any number
of things to a child we're looking at um
a form of
exploitation this is the methodology of
County lies this is typically what
happens with mounting evidence of drug
dealing bedfordshire police's boson team
are meeting to discuss what offenses
they could charge the gang members with
when we speak to people with knowledge
around like gang affiliation the one
thing we say to them is how do we stop
County allons and they're like keep on
with the modern day savory cuz you go
into prison as a drug dealer as a hero
you go in as someone that exploits
children you get put on a different RNG
and it's the whole way you're treated
once you're in prison completely changes
there is no legislation place that
specifically says you're exploiting
someone to sell drugs so the moday
slavery Act is a piece of legislation
we're using now to try and stop people
taking advantage of vulnerable people
and kids
and this is op conductor I think most of
you are pretty much aware of what's
going on um we want to Nick basically
these three Oliver Hamilton Tyron Baker
and Dean Welsh the bosen team are now
ready to arrest the three men they
suspect are running a county lines drug
gang in bigles Wade uh essentially
they're all going to be nicked for um
drug Supply offenses and modern day
slavery offenses you've all got a
warrant so you get any resistance from
family we can um enter the house we get
van it's just a county lines model isn't
it they'll take over small little
Villages and towns like that people
aren't used to seeing it it's not
something that people kind of ever
equipped to deal with CU if these do
went to Luton for example the ocgs and
Lon would just probably shoot them yeah
yeah next right to Ken we're 2 minutes
away just arriving M I'm happy if we're
all just a minute out then I'm happy for
us to go um Straight Ahead
yeah is Oliver home thank you very much
hello me again mate it's de
morning sorry for knocking so early in
the morning looking for Tyrone yeah he's
in here is he not are you Mom yeah is
right if we come in and chat rather than
all your neighbors know your
business put your in mate mind you red
sit down in there mate I'll
explain be heading back to you mate how
do we get on with the other two Hamilton
has been arrested Unfortunately
they you can call him there you go who's
that then hello so who who am I talking
toing is it
t right we need to speak to you today
you need to hand yourself into the
police been not well you are now aren't
it because we're trying to get you I say
you are want to know aren you okay I'll
pH back to
M hello mate I spoke to tyone on the
phone ran in away
Bly I he kep saying swear down if you
upset my mom I'll swear down I'm just
like getting more threatening and
abusive I saying well if you end
yourself in we W have come back again
will we very nice house lots of um
design labels in
yeah hello CH you're right mate with
ring leader Tyrone Baker still
outstanding his drug left tenants Oliver
Hamilton and Dean Welsh are brought into
custody want to make you're
right I've got a nervous
laugh sorry not laughing like I didn't
notice mate all right reckon I'll be
here for a
while everyone's here for a few hours so
make yourself comfortable
how you doing you're
right so you've been arrested today on
suspicion of conspiracy Supply control
drugs and M day
slavery do you know somebody called
tyone
Baker are you aware it's a drug de
though would I be right saying that
Baker is leading the conspiracy
no com what can you tell me about the
man whose house you've taken over no com
did you pay them to back up no
comment anything else you want to
say cool uh the time is now
1238 and this interview is
concluded they tell me a drug dealer did
not tell up told a drug dealer facing a
decent spell in prison
yeah theing team how you doing all right
I was just wondering what your
intentions were this
morning okay and then you're going to
come down to headquarters area with
s than S you a
bit right he says sa in court this
morning and then he's going to come down
after that
I think it would be just a prove a
point because I I turn my I while not
when you tell
me you've been found with recreational
drugs in your house do you have a drug
habit do you Rec no but you know is
recreational DS Ward an investigating
officer officer Breck from the fraud
Team interview Sasha golden they suspect
she has stolen money to finance buying
drugs from Tyrone Baker's gang the other
thing we got to ask you about may seem a
little bit personal um I noticed a lot
of the bruises on your legs in that this
morning when you answered the door are
you well is there something wrong
there's um I scratch when I'm anxious so
um my anxiety Peaks I eyes scratch
sometimes you know drug use can bring
out other sort of skin po S as well
just um we digress a little bit I know
we have to cover that sort of thing we
have a welfare and we have a concern for
you um there's one thing I really want
to clear up is um this is Alan's bank
statement what's the babysitting
Arrangement babysitting yeah yeah so if
I got friends over to babysit there's a
lot of babysitting and it's quite
expensive babysitting it is expensive
babysitting yeah so Mrs B you've been
paying for babysitting and now you're
paying car parts what's that for car
parts but like what
80 Tire drugs no no yeah absolutely yeah
her husband is a mechanic Mrs B her name
is Sammy Sammy don't
know doesn't make sense does it
Sasha this is not going well can you see
how it looks us yes yes of course it of
course I can what's wrong with your car
then nothing's wrong with my car okay so
why you buying car
parts it is drugs yeah yeah okay don't
get me wrong I mean I've met loads of
people at drag addicts they start with
the Earth but they can't stop themselves
and it looks like you've had Spates
where you just can't stop yeah it was a
summer it was my summer of being single
and the bank of Allen yeah very very
handy of course summer carry on do you
think Alan would have been happy that
money was going into this account and
you're clearly buying drugs no he
wouldn't be happy about that what do you
think was going to happen oh
God it's not ruled out he could end up
homeless I mean I'm happy to set a
payment plan to I really don't think you
can set a payment plan up on your salary
Sasha we're talking over £200,000
how many many years is that going to
take
you I got greedy you have got greedy
that's Bas the long short of it and you
couldn't stop could you the past five
five six years it's been um yeah tough
my sister died my mom died straight
after and then after that it just kind
of
spiraled okay
um it's now 16003 and we'll end this
interview
full and Frank confession she spunk 212
Grand of Alan's money drugs
shopping Unfortunately they got tell him
now that there's there's no money coming
back
oh you've got a lot of
stuff Tyrone these officers here are
going to escort you over to your
custody the leader of the bigles way
drug Gang has taken legal advice from
his solicitor and decided to hand
himself in what's your name Tyron Baker
tyone first getting no isn't
that your
Lambo not yet not yet P I'm buying a por
soon though 91
s you can get this one but 75 is it yeah
one since I was a kid me as well come
I'll
get time is 20
34 before you begin your line of
question I'd like to inform you Mr Beer
will be exercising his right to silence
he will be responding by way of no
comment to your questions he understands
you need to continue asking
questions it looks like that you are the
head of the game and you've got Welsh
and Howton as your rightand men that
look after you and you got others the
bag will sell up for you as well that be
right no
do you think it's right to pay children
look after drugs no
comment we we're saying that you've um
taken advantage of these people no no
comment you're saying you didn't exploit
them no comment how much money do you
have no comment so any case you have got
is a declared through that tax office so
you got receipts to prove how much money
you have no
comment okay the time uh is now 2107 and
this interview is concluded
but never ever go to my house being rude
to my M again no no no no don't pull a
face like that swear to God just don't
be rude last IUD you crack on then you
keep being rude crack on I'm just
telling you it's the last time I'm
telling
you last time tell you don't ever be R
again thank you
pirone could have been looking at a
sentence of up to 20 years if convicted
of these
defences the clents that I deal with and
the types of cases that I deal with
there's a lot of stake
sometimes it can be difficult to manage
their
expectations I know I'm good at my job
but the sometimes they expect me to work
miracles and miracles are for
good
right so we got the charges
too got is he yeah 11 charges yeah I
know busy man do I get a bonus per
charge do I no like an extra
cake no well done there's
my
season by Prophet
mam so if you time with me there'd be
ADV niice for
you oliv just come and stand here me
please the officers have gone to the CPS
and they've come back with a decision to
charge there's eight charges on
there okay you're charged with the
following offenses conspired together
with Oliver Hamilton and Dean Welsh to
supply a quantity of cocaine a
controlled drug of Class
A held child in slavery or servitude
cont section 1A and five slav at
2015 just found all these charges you
just picked out out there
SE is there any reply you'd like to say
about yeah it's
bull any more made up charges or is that
it is that your reply no I got no reply
Serge no reply there only way I can not
call my
mom um he will speak to his mom
just want around speak to Ser oh yeah
all right thank
you okay so give me B you got some
conditions that you need to abide by
while the officers finish their
investigation it's almost like she was
completely given an opportunity on a
plate and she took it she didn't need to
and when you ready if I can have
signature for your and she carried on
and carried on she continued this for 18
months
and she knew it was wrong it just seems
to be a pack of cards that have fallen
down really around her and sometimes we
just have to take responsibility for the
things that we've
[Laughter]
done hello hello
Alan hello mate I I'll come to give you
an update on what we've got so far okay
we Sasha initially she denied everything
and then we went through the entire bank
statements at which point then she
started to change tune a little bit and
tell us that she's been using the money
and we established that a lot of the
usage they were actually payments for
drugs she's been using cocaine quite a
lot apparently cocaine yeah not just
that there's been lots of spending on
absolutely anything you can think
of not the best of news I'm afraid mate
no um now to get some money back so I
can get a new chair I need a new chair
yeah you saying that last time it
started to go there
yeah I don't want a lot out of
L these drugs it's a downfall of many
people
unfortunately nice to meet you my love
thank you wores all right
Che drug offenses need to be treated
seriously simply because the social
problems it causes for someone to steal
that kind of money off an uncle while
they're in a care home to spend on drugs
it's just a horrendous knock on effect
to
everyone and where's that money gone
just g into criminal's Pockets there are
no plus sides to it